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1 CS Course and the Overwhelming Exemptions on Thu 27 May 2010 - 12:02

madhurna@gmail.com


As you all know ICSI currently offering Exemptions at all levels, may be in Foundation, Executive Program, Professional Program, Practical Training or Compulsory Computer Training.

I strictly oppose such policy of ICSI. There are very few who are pursuing CS as their full time career and maximum are just doing for a sec of value addition. For increasing number of individuals for pursuing CS as full time Profession and to increase more dedicated and quality students, it is necessary to withdraw all the exemptions.

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Dear Member

Its a good topic post.

ICSI and ICWAI are the only Institutes which give exemptions in papers & or practical training. This is because of the minimum no. of members in the profession.

See, we have only 25000 company secretaries in India. The co. registration is going up day-by-day (especially due to e-flings). Thus we need to take into care the numbers also. Most of recognition for CS is not resulting due to shortage of numbers. This is the same with ICWAI also.

Thats why ICSI encourage exemption route. To attract more students (especially who are employed). Once our number comes to a decent figure say 1 lac etc. we can also think of non-exemption pattern.

Many of the International Institutes offer exemptions on the basis of experience / pre-courses etc. Thus, its an International Practice.

This is the reason why ICAI is not welcoming exemption. There is no exemption for papers / training ! Because their numbers are satisfactory.

We understand your concern, but we opine that we can wait for few more students and members coming in, then control the output.

See what ICAI is doing, they make more students to join the CA course by CPT, but Final results are low, thus they make a good number of inventory of students. Thus, they are becoming strengthen day-by-day. As per un-quoted sources ICAI have 6,00,000 students (this is because of the CPT), but ICSI have only 1,60,000 students, even this is happening due to few exemptions for LLB, MBA, ICWAI Final Pass, CA Final Pass, M.Com etc.

Thus, we should also attract students. But you can watch the ICSI syllabus, its one of the best among Trio (ICSI, ICAI, ICWAI). Thus our ICSI is trying to balance between quality and quantity. It’s a real task….

Recently ICSI has realized the need for brand building new logo, TV spots, Radio spots, new website, e-learning, ERP portal etc. etc.

To conclude, we feel the practice of exemptions can be continued as quantity is the need of the hour for ICSI. That we call as CAPACITY BUILDING, WITHOUT COMPROMISING QUALITY !

Other CSoC Members views solicited. Thanks for such meaningful post !

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madhurna@gmail.com


Number is serious concern, I sincerely agree. But if you look at the real situation, most of the students are pursuing CS as their additional qualification and out of them many don’t even bother to apply for membership after passing Final Exams, since ICSI allows exemption in training, they prefer to continue their job as CA or MBA for 3 yrs and then apply for membership. The main problem is we are lacking in exploring core competency of our profession to corporates and the students who are passing finals or the members applying for membership claiming training exemptions, are not giving any value addition towards the profession.

Increasing members just for sec of completing target of 50,000 by 2020 is not justified any how. We want more hardcore professionals dedication towards CS Profession, core competency, zeal towards the institute and thus serving the corporate world at large.

Quality is very important to any profession and by allowing exemption it definitely diminishes. As you said and i well agree that ICSI syllabus is best among all the three institute, how can the Institute allow exemptions to graduates, may be any (including engineers and arts graduates) from foundation exams

All i want to say is remove all the exemptions, the quality and hardcore professions will increase automatically. And let me tell you one more thing toughest the passing and structure of course, attract more students and more respect among mass.

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Well Taken. Good Views.

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raviapte


I think exemptions are optional. A serious and studious student can always appear for all papers without claiming exemptions. Think from students’ angle (like me) who have already studied same subjects in other Professional / University exams. These exemptions are option for them for not studying same subject again.

I don’t think this affects quality of qualification.

vartika


it was a very motivating statistics. thanks

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